Two things that look the same

Pairs people confuse on Nexus Market, and the one test between them

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nexusb2l7fmqnefwphyy7m5zjhlkytlbo7qbb5lu5dlczr3azgii2gyd.onion
nexusma2iegzo7atzwbrwxhcdopyri3vare2twibldnlc3txqjdeb5yd.onion
nexusabcdpvtnivv6owtqjkvd22k5x3hlpofkgjqjmgzltlde6mwe2qd.onion

Published as supplied. Nothing here is monitored, so none of this is a claim that any address opens right now.

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A signature check answers one question and people hear a different one. Everything in this group lives in the gap between the question asked and the question the reader thought they were asking.

The one sentence the group is built on

A good signature proves that whoever holds a particular private key produced that exact text. It does not prove who they are, when they wrote it, or that they still mean it.

Read that sentence twice, because six of the seven pairs below are a consequence of it. The key is not a person. The text has no reliable date. The result is about bytes and nothing else.

None of that makes signatures useless. It makes them narrow. A narrow tool used for what it does is far better than a broad reassurance that turns out to mean nothing, and the difference between the two is the whole subject of this group.

A good signature from the wrong key against A good signature from the right key

Verifying software reports the same result for both. Only the fingerprint says which key it used.

The test: Compare the fingerprint of the verifying key against one you already held

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An old signed statement against A current one

A signature proves authorship, never freshness. Only a date written into the text does that.

The test: Look for a date the signer wrote into the signed text itself

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A picture of a signed block against A signed block

One can be handed to verifying software. The other is a photograph of something that may never have existed.

The test: Try to select the text. If it will not select and copy, there is nothing to verify

OPEN

A fingerprint that matches against A name that matches

The name in a key was typed by whoever built it. The fingerprint is derived from the key material.

The test: Ask which string a person could have typed, then compare the one they could not

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An announcement on the site against An announcement about the site

Where a notice sits tells you who controls that page. Only a signature tells you who wrote the words.

The test: Ignore where it sits. Ask whether it is signed by a key whose fingerprint you hold

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A badge against An identity

A badge is a statement by the interface showing it. An identity is a key you can check for yourself.

The test: Ask for a signed line and check it against a fingerprint you already hold

OPEN

A signed list against A published list

One proves control of a page. The other proves who wrote the lines, wherever they end up.

The test: Check whether the addresses sit inside the signed text or merely beside it

OPEN

Where the key came from is the real question

Every one of these pages ends up in the same place. Not is the signature good, but where did the key come from and did you have it before the message arrived. A key that came attached to the message it signs proves that the message is internally consistent and nothing more, which is a property a forgery has too.

This is unsatisfying because it means the value of a check made today was decided months ago by whether you kept a fingerprint. There is no way around that. It is a property of how the arithmetic works rather than a gap somebody forgot to fill.

What is deliberately missing

No software names, no versions, no command lines and no setup instructions appear on these pages. Plenty of other places cover that, and the pairs here are about interpretation rather than tooling. If you already verify things, these pages are about what your results have been telling you.

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AddressesGetting inMoneyOrdersPeopleWordsDown for now, or finished for goodOld address, or one built to be misreadSame page at two addresses, and only one is theirsThe redirect and the string it stands in forYour path through Tor, or the far endDid the set move, or did your copy slipLoading proves a server answered, and nothing moreRate limiting against a password that no longer matchesWhen the puzzle is broken and when the reader isA door you shut yourself against a lock somebody changedLogged out by a clock against logged out by a decisionA code that does not match against a clock that does notAn absence against a single character out of placeA wait somebody planned against a wait nobody didA deposit that is slow, or a deposit that is goneThe address expired, or it was never issued to youA rule about release, or a decision about youWho took the difference, the operator or the networkA saving on quantity, or a saving on protectionMoney back, or the end of the argumentStill moving, or already refusedStill settling, or short by a fractionA date with something behind it, and a date withoutOne request moves a clock, the other moves the moneyAsking for a ruling, or handing over informationA word in a database, and an event in a recordNothing new to report is not the same as bad newsA rule that runs by itself, and a date somebody prefersSilence and being ignored look identicalQuiet is not the same as goneFeedback tells you a mood, evidence tells you a factWhat a signature actually provesThe market only speaks in one placeAn empty history and a claimed historyThe result is good. Whose key was it?The same clean result, months apartYou cannot check an image, however clear it isOne of these strings was chosen by somebodyPosted where, and written by whomWho granted it, and what were they promisingTwo lists of addresses, two different guaranteesHow to read a pairEvery pairThe testsThe costsMirrorsQuestions